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Should people pretend to be God in plays or videos?

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ELIZABETH WRITES: How do you feel about God or Jesus representations? Like the ones BlimeyCow do in their videos to be sarcastic? I was just wondering what you guys thought about that subject. I know some people who consider it un-Christian and some who consider it completely harmless.


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  • To me, it depends on what’s happening. If I’m watching a movie about Jesus, I’d say it’s perfectly fine, since it helps me get a better picture of him. And even if the movie is Biblically incorrect, it gives me something to look into more.

    If the portrayal of God is not being used for teaching purposes, I don’t think it’s necessarily bad. BlimeyCow is there to make us laugh, and God created laughter. He loves it when his children laugh at things that are genuinely (and appropriately) funny. Now, if someone was taking God and portraying him as something that’s he’s not with the purpose of making God look bad, I’d probably have to object.

    I think it all comes down to what your own convictions are, what’s disturbing to your own spiritual growth, and what’s acceptable and helps you understand God better. Hope that helps! =)

    [[ On a side note, under the DQ the site says there’s 17 comments, when down here in the comment section, there’s none yet. Anyone else having this problem? ]]

    • Your comment says it all. Nothing more I need to say. 🙂 And yes, mine says 17 comments too, but there are only like ten on here right now. Weird.

    • Fabulous answer:) I agree with all of that; you made some really great points=) what’s interesting to me is that the question is kind of asking “should Jesus be portrayed by someone who isn’t Jesus?” But really, we are all Christ’s representatives. If we act sinfully, than we represent Jesus no better then the youtuber making fun of God (not referring to BlimeyCow though;) We are commanded to portray God’s character and show His love through our own actions:) Idk if anyone else got that interpretation, but that may just be me:) Oh yeah on mine the comments say 7;)

    • Agreed! 🙂
      If you are picking on God then NO, don’t do it. But when you are doing it to honor God, and tell people about God, then it’s okay. 🙂
      Great answer @prayerwrrior:disqus 🙂

  • I think it depends what the motive behind the representation is. If it is obviously a joke (Blimey Cow! 😉 ) I think it’s fine. I guess some people don’t always understand when someone is being sarcastic (a problem I often have).

  • I think, I agree with @Gabrielle S.:disqus

    Not to hijack the thread: How do I send a personal message or e-mail to Brett?

    • At the very top of this page, it should say “contact us”. On that page, you can put your name, subject, and message. (It goes straight to them… its not published or anything.)

    • And why would you want to contact Brett????
      I’m incurably curious 🙂 If you don’t wanna answer it’s okay and I totally understand 🙂

      • I was just letting him know that as the rebelution movement goes international, he will need to be aware of possible cultural misunderstandings on the reb.

        I was also letting him know that I am an MK (missionary kid),
        overseas.

        Are your curiosities thwarted or did I just make you more curios? lol! 🙂

        • What do you think is different for you, being an MK?
          So yes, you did make me more curious, but now about a different subject!

          • Culture would be the biggest difference.
            My parents are amazing ,of course.
            My relatives are also pretty cool.

            Very little peer pressure, if you haven’t learned the language.
            It is a miss conception that MKs are always bi-lingual (I’m not) ,but I am working on learning Spanish and Guarani, both are the national languages of Paraguay.

            I am/was home schooled (I am graduated from 12th grade).
            I would say I am more equipped to defend my faith than most Americans that grow up in an average church environment.

            Almost all of the same temptations are here as in the U.S.
            I fail miserably and get back up and fail again, just like anyone could.

            All I want is to grow closer in my walk with God, day by day, step by step.

            I am but a little dirt clod that God has made pure and holy though the death of His Son, Jesus. He has washed me clean and chooses to use for His glory, what an awesome God we serve!

          • Mostly, the culture is different.

            Growing up in a missionary family has been awesome.
            Homeschooling is, in my opinion, far more advantageous
            than other forms of schooling.

            I don’t know, I would say there isn’t that much of a difference.
            Probably a whole lot more peer pressure in the U. S.

            I have had been able to learn some apologetics.

            I am not sure what growing up in the U. S. is like, so I am
            not sure how to compare the two. 🙂

  • I think that playing as Him is ok just as long as they play Him correctly.(And it helps to teach little kids an idea of what his life was like) AS for BlimeyCow I think he means well and just to be funny….but I’ve seen movies where somone is playing as God or Jesus and is purposly ridiculing and clearly mocking our LORD and making Christianity look like a joke. Then that is not ok. (Just my opinion people)

    • Just saying, if you ever pick out a Biblical movie for kids, at all costs, AVOID DONKEY OLLIE. IT IS THE MOST WRONGLY “BIBLICAL” MOVIE IN EXISTENCE. Basically, Donkey Ollie is: Moses, Joseph, Balem’s donkey, the brother of a bunch of thieves, the donkey who carried Jesus into Jerusalem a week before he was crucified, all in ONE STINKING EPISODE. Okay, maybe I exaggerated a little bit. He’s not moses, and he’s not Balem’s donkey. But he is joseph, oh and I forgot. He get’s put in a colosseum to get devoured by wild animals. I can’t speak for everyone else, but if I were you, AVOID DONKEY OLLIE

  • @Gabriel S pretty much summed it up! 🙂 If the actor is portraying accurate qualities of God, and is using them to glorify God, then I think it’s perfectly fine for someone to play God in a movie, play, or the like. When Jordan in Blimey Cow plays God, he often clearly portrays what God ISNT, and in so doing Glorifies Him and makes us aware of OUR shortcomings. Sometimes sarcasm is the most effective way of portraying the truth. 🙂

  • I don’t really have a problem with people portraying God, as long as it’s respectful. It should not make God seem to be something He’s not (exaggeration or things like that aren’t necessarily bad). Also, there are some people’s portrayals of God in which they “put words in His mouth,” and that’s not good.

  • Okay… so I had no idea who or what BlimeyCow was. Just got done watching the Ten Commandments of Social Media Etiquette! Bahaha… I laughed so hard!

    So back to the DQ: someone playing GOD in a movie, play, or even GOD’s voice on audio is fine as long as they are portraying GOD in the right way (true to His Biblical character).

    My “beef” is actually with who is usually chosen to play GOD or especially JESUS in most Biblical films. I know that depending on the congregation in your church… you might not be able to find a more Jewish looking JESUS, but when it comes to big budget films… come on! Where are the middle eastern or “Jewish looking” actors? I guess I just think we should be trying to create the best or truest representation we possibly can. The blond and brunette “Caucasian JESUS” needs to go! They seem to find plenty of Jewish looking people to play in the background but the lead roles are always the same. Does anyone else see this?

    And what about GOD or JESUS paintings? I personally don’t care for pictures of JESUS… I like using quotes from JESUS or passages of Scripture as decor. What about you guys?

    • Morally, I don’t think there is a problem with portraying Jesus with an actor in a movie. Personally though, you are SO right! I am so tired of a white, blonde, blue eyed, American Jesus (also usually middle class and Republican, but those are optional). All VBS posters and children’s ministry pictures of Jesus I’ve ever seen portray Him as exactly that a fair, American Jesus.

      How receptive do you think the Jews would have been to a white dude showing up in the synagogue? I mean, seriously, guys, what are we thinking?

      • Dude I totally agree! Recently when I was sick, I watched a movie on Netflix that was a narrator reading the Gospel of John and actors acting it out. (That was a horribly unfancy sentence. But you get the point, right?)
        Anyways, it was so well done, and Jesus didn’t look American! He looked ethnic! I was shocked. 😀

        • Well, that’s impressive. I’m glad to know there are at least some movies out there that portray that correctly! And yes, I get the point of the sentence! I’m not great with fancy sentences either!

          Man, Netflix is nice when you’re sick!

        • What was the name of this “rare phenomenon” on Netflix? I must know! Glad to hear someone’s making an effort! Even on “The Passion of the Christ” Peter looked more ethnic than Jesus…

          • Its actually called The Gospel of John, and it comes in New International Version or King James Version. I really like it!
            I’ve never seen The Passion of the Christ. I don’t have the guts. I watched Son of God and sobbed the entire twenety minutes of the betrayal/beating/crucifixion scene. I probably couldn’t handle The Passion. (I do know, however, that seeing what our Savior went through is really important!)

          • Brooklyn, I would recommend watching The Encounter, if you like Jesus movies. I won’t lie, it does have a white, blue eyed, American Jesus, but it’s a REALLY good movie. There’s also a second one, but I forget what it’s called

          • Yes! Although it does have, as you said, a white, blue-eyed, definitely American Jesus, it was a great movie. The second one is called “Encounter: Paradise Lost”.

          • I definately understand where you’re coming from with not wanting to watch The Passion, but if you do muster up the courage to watch it, you won’t regret it 🙂

          • Thanks! I’ll definitely have to check it out! …And don’t worry about not having seen “The Passion…”. It only capitalizes on the physical side of what happened. In all reality it was much, much worse than what that particular movie portrays! We can’t even fathom the “spiritual agony”… the feeling of being forsaken by GOD can’t be shown on film!

      • I also do not like how they almost ALWAYS portray Jesus Christ as effeminate and with long hair…this is opposite of what God clearly states in His Word! As if Jesus himself would violate that! 🙁 Get. It. Right.

    • Yes I agree! I think there’s a movie where the voice of God is played by a TWELVE-YEAR OLD boy!!! That’s just wrong.

    • Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of pictures on walls, in churches, and places like that, about how Jesus was, and no disrespect intended here, but he is always white. He lived in ISRAEL for pete’s sake! I mean, how fair can a guy’s skin get when he lives in that part of the world? Another thing that boogies me is that He always looks frail, weak, and ashamed. I think that with all the work people had to do back then, and especially considering him being a carpenter, he would be well muscled, and being God, proud to die for his people. I just don’t get it.
      Sorry I haven’t checked in in a couple months, I haven’t had time, and I forgot my username.

      • Well, you almost got a welcome from me! I saw a name I didn’t recognize and thought you were new 🙂
        I know, we portray Jesus all wrong…

      • Yep, I agree that he could be portrayed as a slightly more realistic character with less meek and mild and more zeal. Perhaps we could get rid of the stereotype beard, too. I feel like he needs to be portrayed as more of a regular person from that era. However, I just visited Israel and the Jewish people there aren’t actually that different from normal caucasians. I don’t know if that’s what Jews looked like in Jesus’ time time though, because the people I saw were mostly returned from Europe, and likely not all pure Jews.
        If Jesus is represented well, and the movie/play helps bring the Bible to life, then it’s fine to have someone play Him.

      • I agree… although the “frail and weak” acting is probably the only way to show the agony of dying on a cross… and of course we’ll never know the agony of “becoming sin for us” and being forsaken by GOD.

  • I think it first of depends on what you’re doing. If it’s as a joke, like to just to be stupid, then probably not. There’s plenty of other thing s to joke about, and I don’t think God should be. If you’re doing an actual religious film, video or play, then I think it’s perfectly fine. I’m doing an Easter drama at my church and my cousin will be playing Jesus. And since he’s doing it to help serve the church, not to joke around, I think it’s fine. As long as you don’t think you’re actually God. ;P

  • I think its totally fine because of the simple fact that we should be able to discern whether or not it is really God. There’s nothing wrong with trying to give a representation as long as we’re still honoring God. Jesus gave parables of God and us so we could understand what he was trying to say, representations of God are basically the same thing. At the same time, its possible dishonor him through doing this (by making the representation use bad language, behavior etc.) but MOST of the people who would be trying to portray God probably wouldn’t do that.

    • While I like the credit you give to believers on their ability to discern, not all are discerning. Discernment is something given to the mature that have been trained.

      Hebrews 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

  • Excellent question. I’ve wondered about that when I see new Jesus films come out. The motives might have good intentions, but I have yet to see the life of Christ depicted accurately with scripture. Bill O’Reillys new “Killing Jesus” is an example. I know that it was not meant to be a spiritual film, but many people watched it with no knowledge of scripture. Just the L,V,S rating was enough for us to turn it off. We need to be real careful in trying to portray Christ. The only accurate, and I think the best portrayal of Jesus, is “The Book of John.” It follows scripture verbatim. And I guess we should ask ourselves while maybe permissible to watch, is it beneficial.

  • if the person is saying truths about God it is fine, but if they are saying lies on purpose or making God look bad then thats where its bad

          • I’m not sure I can picture you pulling off the evil smile. I don’t if it’s the profile picture of a flower, a cross, and sunlight, or just you seem like a cheerful person, but I just can’t picture that!

          • Oh, you should see me portraying Satan… *Reconsiders* Okay, you shouldn’t; I don’t think I do a very good job. But still, you would see that I can try to be evil!
            I’ve been told by directors that I have a “motherly face,” whatever that means…

          • That sounds like probably a compliment. Probably, not really sure…

            I’m not really sure how to encourage you. “I think you’d make a very good Satan” just seems offensive…

          • It mean I get the boring roles, really… 🙁
            Seriously, unless you’ve ever acted an evil role, you have no idea how fun it is! It’s like you can express emotions you’re never supposed to show, because you’re this different person!

          • It is SO COOL! If you ever get a chance to act, you totally have to take it!

          • Our homeschool group did “The Hiding Place.” That was a BLAST! I was Kaptyn with the Gestapo and had to slap “Corrie Ten Boom.” Lol

          • It sounds kinda bad… But everyone loves to play Satan. Well, almost everyone. Not because they like him, but because the Satan parts can be the most fun.
            What do you mean by boring roles?

          • Boring roles: The “everything’s perfect” roles where you’re supposed to look like you’re happy with life and everything’s rosy. Like the mom in “The Gift”… Yes, she’s homeless but she looks at everything in rose-colored glasses, ya know? Now, if I ever get to be the momin Gero…

  • Hey guys, would you mind praying for one of my friends? They are having a hard time choosing a religion to follow.

  • I think I’m in an interesting situation to address this from, because my mime team does this all the time. Actually, I’m hard-pressed to think of a “Intentionally Christian” song that doesn’t have God or Jesus.
    The only problem I have with some times that Jesus is portrayed is that we sometimes turn Him into what one book called “The Pansy Jesus,” where Jesus is this meek, mild guy who never causes trouble. That gets my temper up!
    But otherwise, I think it’s a unique privilege to portray God on stage or in a movie. Obviously, it is important to keep you (as an actor) and your character (God) separate, but I don’t think that’s even a question here 🙂

  • Okay sorry to change the subject but I have a query. Would it be ok to make something toa little more fun for younger(or older) people,from the bible?

  • Such as I am building a lego scene of jesus coming back. Im using my chicken lego guy as the angel and my hot dog guy has a hot dog stand. Is that wrong or is it fine? I just dont wanna offend jesus or look disgraceful

    • Hmmm… The hot-dog-guy seems like something that would really be there. The chicken guy (who sounds super-cool, BTW)… I don’t know. Maybe you could take it out? I dunno.
      I think Lego creations are like any other form of artwork. I draw things when I’m bored, and the Cross is a major part of what I do. I might mess up, or scratch out what I’m doing, but I don’t think it’s disrespectful that I’m scratching out my drawing of a Cross. Or I might draw something where Jesus looks pretty dorky (I’m terrible at drawing people), but I don’t think that He looks at that and says, “Laura didn’t draw me very well. I am offended.”
      You know what I’m trying to say? I don’t want to come across wrong…

  • i havent been on in awhile guys as you can clearly tell but i get tons of notifs on what you guys talk about tho it sometimes seems to clearly be off topic sometimes. (wont give out names) it would be so cool to meet you guys in person. im glad to know there are people out there with opinions and with brains…..(majority of teens i meet are discouraging and plain stupid) SO THANK YOU ALL! My faith in humanity has been restored!

  • If it is satirical, as in an atheist-written short story, then that’s free speech. It’s not hurting anyone.
    If it’s in an inspiring n g movie, such as Son Of God, then awesome!!
    If it’s just a stupid joke, that is a sin.

    • I do think it’s wrong, though, if it’s satirical, even though I don’t think we should bash them about it. And I do think that it hurts. The Bible says not to take the Lord’s name in vain, and mocking Him in a short story is NOT respectful to him.

  • Like so many other things, there are two parts to this: the motivation and the action.

    First, the motivation. No matter how accurate the portrayal is, if they’re doing it to mock or make a joke out of it, then it’s wrong. Period.
    Then there’s the portrayal. Even If the motivation is correct, if the portrayal is wrong, then it’s disrespectful, whether it was accidentally or not.
    So this is what I think. For it to be safe and fine, it has to, (1) be motivated by a correct motivation, such as wanting to glorify God or help others know Him, and (2) be done correctly, which means that He must be done accurately (Show Him the way He is, not all judgmental or soft, not something to be laughed at).
    Does this make sense?

  • I am on a mime team- Aim San Diego. I think what we do on the team would be less effective if we didn’t have someone play God or Jesus. I think that it is okay in situations where it glorifies God. Our team is able to share the gospel and encourage believers by playing God and Jesus. 🙂

      • Not necessarily street evangelism stuffs. Like we can go and present pretty much anywhere. We use drama and mime with music to share the gospel and encourage the believers. Does that answer your question?
        If you want to check us out, here is our website: aimsandiego.org.

        • Looks like a neat ministry you have going there.
          Is it an international movement now or still only in the U. S.?

          • Well, I know they have a team in like Scotland or something. But it isn’t technically the same ministry. We used to be apart of AIM. It’s kinda confusing…. But there are quite a few teams throughout the U.S. and at least one out of the country. We aren’t necessarily connected. A lot of us used to be, but since the new changes with AIM, things have changed. I hope that makes at least a little bit of sense.

          • I forgot that Aim still exists.. it’s a lot smaller than it used to be!
            But I still see Aim shirts around where I live!

          • Well, AIM around the world isn’t doing as much as it used to. It’s funny walking around and seeing shirts from your team or another team. Haha.

          • Is there a way I could buy an AIM shirt, or would I have to be on a current AIM team? I’m on LTW, which used to be SSA and before then was an AIM _____ team. (If you know the acronyms, great — if not, I don’t think I should give you the full name because that would tell everyone where I live…)

          • Hey Josiah I just looked at your profile… is your profile pic one of your drawings?

          • So I showed your profile picture to my sister, who’s into drawing too, and she saw it and where you said you’re an “amateur pencil artist” and she looked at what you said, looked back at the picture, then said “ AMATEUR pencil artist?!?!” I think you’ve thoroughly earned her respect 🙂

          • Your sister is too kind… Now I am curios what
            your sister’s art looks like. 🙂

          • She does a lot of clothing… But she also done some other stuff… I’ll see if I can get my hands on any of it 🙂

          • Well, every time I try to upload a picture of something she’s drawn, the computer says it’s too big a file. :*(

    • I’m on a mime team too! We used to be AIM Blacksburg, but now we’re Silent Lights Discipleship Ministry. The message is definitely way clearer when we have guys playing God or Jesus, but we make sure it’s biblically (sp?) accurate and not disrespectful at all.

      • WHAAAAT?! My team came (LTW) came to visit you in March on their missions trip! And if I remember right, you joined us for a joint presentation in Washington, DC two years ago, right? Wow! This is great, meeting mimes from around the country!
        How long have you been a mime?

        • Yes!!! I missed the dinner during the missions trip and I was too young to go to DC 🙁 but didn’t you guys come down and do a workshop once? I could be wrong…
          I’ll have been a mime for about four years this summer. What about you?

          • I just realized, I know your last name from Facebook!
            Well, I wasn’t at DC myself, so we wouldn’t have met even if you were there 🙂 Wish I could have been, but unfortunately I couldn’t take the time from school and it wouldn’t have worked for other reasons 🙁 I wish I’d been there!
            I believe we’ve done workshops for you a lot… I’ve never been on the missions trips, so I could be wrong, too!
            I’ve been a full-fledged mime for two years now. I think that’s the right number 🙂 I halfway-joined partway through the spring session of 2012; I missed training camp so I couldn’t be in any of the songs, but I hung out with the team and did Bible Study and everything else with them.
            What’s your favorite song?

          • I’ve never been on one of the missions trip either. 🙁
            I have so many favorite songs, I don’t know which one I would pick! Maybe “Alive” and “Keys to the Kingdom.” But I also like “Virtuoso” and a bunch of others. They’re so much fun! What’s your favorite?

          • I love Alive! Virtuoso was a veritable disaster last time we did it… it was all of the newer people, and we could. Not. Find. The. Beat. Ever. It must have been sheer misery for the older mimes to watch us butcher the song like we did!
            Hmmm, Alive and “Go” are my favorites 🙂 I got to be Mary in Go this session! And I get to be Barnabas 🙂

      • Hey Kira, I am so sorry I never responded to your comment. I just saw it….. Hopefully, you will see this since it has been like two years since you posted it. I have heard of Silent Lights. I think I actually follow your team on YouTube. I have been with the mime team for over 6 years now (I think- really hard to keep track!).

        • I actually forgot my password, so I’m just now able to reply – sorry about that… I’ve been on the team for about six years now too and I watch the videos of your team – we’re actually teaching Forbearance at a workshop in a couple days 🙂

          • It’s okay! That’s super cool. We actually choreographed that song as a team on a missions trip we went on a couple years back. 🙂

          • Creating mimes is so amazing! Those of us on the older team all created a mime of our testimony this year – it was intense but good 🙂

  • I think that the main issue lies in what “God” was acting like in the movie or show. We have a GREAT God, everyone. He’s not to be made fun of or joked about. Our God is righteous and just, which is why he would have had to destroy us if it weren’t for Jesus. If whoever was playing God wasn’t acting in those ways then I would have hard feelings towards them.

  • I think it’s ok for Jesus to be portrayed in plays or skits as long as they’re representing Him accurately and respectfully. If they’re portraying Him wrong or disrespectfully, I do not think that’s ok.

  • Pretty much what everyone else said. As long as they have good intentions toward drawing people closer to God, they’re okay.

    On a random side note, I’ve finally decided to join you guys in commenting! I’ve been reading the articles and all your off topic convos for a while now, and I thought it was high time that I step in and join the fun. =D

  • Hi,

    Again like many times I didn’t read all of the posts so please forgive me if I said the same things as you did! For the things in BlimeyCow I would consider that abusing the Ten Commandments. I understand it is for comedy and all but it went a little too far for me. Just my opinion though. Now, if the person pretending to be God or Jesus was doing it in a respectful way such as doing a play about the Passion of Christ then I believe that is very acceptable.

    Hope I could be of some help and God Bless,
    Clare

    • Sometimes even pastors use sarcasm to convey a truth about God. Maybe not as blatant as Blimey Cow does. For instance: A pastor might say, “God isn’t sitting up there saying, ‘Nope! You didn’t go to church enough. Sorry. Next!'” That’s basically what Blimey Cow does, really.

  • All stories reflect the gospel because all our earthly relationships reflect our relationship with God. We are God’s sons and daughters. We are his bride. He is our teacher, our friend, our brother, our king, our avenger, our healer, our redeemer etc. In this way, every story’s hero/heroine “represents” God in some way. Of course, God is not a character in most stories, even Christian ones, but when God is a character in movies or plays, if these movies depict him respectfully, there is nothing wrong with that. I have never actually watched BlimeyCow, but I do not think that making of our misconceptions of God, even through sarcasm, is necessarily wrong either if one shows that God is not actually like that but only perceived to be like that.

  • Personally it’s just gross to see BlimeyCow’s representations of “God”. That’s why I don’t watch his videos, because I don’t understand the need for constant foolishness and over-animation. There’s nothing wrong with humor, but give it a leash.

  • I think that it would depend on the purpose of the video. Blimey Cow’s purpose is usually to make fun of some peoples views of God by addressing how silly those opinions are compared to how God really is. I don’t think that they meant any disrespect by it. 🙂 On the other hand, I have seen videos that portray Jesus in a very negative way just to be funny without a right purpose behind it. So, I think it just depends on the heart behind the video.

  • I guess it depends on the heart of the people who make the videos.

    In the view if Blimey Cow, I’ve talked to Josh before and have saw a heart for God shine through. Their videos just tend to be jokily pointing about how over fanatical and offended people can be over someone who has different views to them. But that doesn’t make them any less Christian.

    On the other hand, if the person portraying God and Jesus is a slight against God or is made to make Him look bad, I would be unhappy with that situation.

    Regards,

    Jack.

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